Différencier les vrais BETA58A des faux

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Différencier les vrais BETA58A des faux

Message par Globe » 6 oct. 2007, 12:50

En allant jeter un oeil sur le site de l'importateur belge de Shure, je suis tombé sur ceci:
Watch out for fake Shure microphones !

Did you know many popular Shure models including the SM57 and 58 and Beta 57 and 58 are illegally manufactured and sold around the world as authentic products ? If not, you are not alone. This problem, which affects many pro audio manufacturers, is largely unknown among musicians and pro audio professionals.

Despite all superficial similarities to authentic Shure products, counterfeits, on average, use much lower quality materials and are very unreliable, much less rugged, and offer significantly lower performance and sound quality. Counterfeits are also not covered by Shure’s warranty policy should you need it.

A few weeks ago we did the test for you with a Beta58 we ordered on the internet. At first sight these two microphones seem very similar. After a closer inspection, and compared with the original microphone, we find however a number of important differences…

Find the 9 differences :

1) The grill is slightly different and the foam inside the grill is much thinner with the fake version. If you keep the grill to the light you see the difference immediately. The thinner foam results in a higher sensibility for moisture and wind noises.

2) The blue ring of the original microphone is thinner and made of high quality rubber. The fake microphone has a slightly different color and is obviously made of regular plastic.

3) The logo on the fake Beta58 has been engraved very negligently and "BETA 58A" is badly readable.

4) This part of the microphone has a slightly different color and it weighs less than the real microphone.

5) The original Beta58 uses a high quality connector with gold plated contacts and the output is symmetrical. The fake one uses low cost connectors and his output is asymmetrical ! The - and the ground are just connected together so think about the results when using this microphone over long cable lengths. Moreover the fake microphones housing is not grounded at the connector.

6) Although the microphone cells externally look similar the fake one sounds less defined than the original one. This is caused by the poor frequency range of the fake microphone. So if your brand new Shure microphone doesn't sound like it should this could be the an indication that you have bought a fake one.

7) The suspension of the fake Beta microphone is very bad and too stiff. This results in a high sensibility for handling noise.

8) The propeller wire of the original microphone is not painted which creates a good grounding between the grill and the body. The fake one is painted because there is no grounding of the microphone anyhow.

9) An original Shure microphone can allways be recognised by it's control stamp on top of the microphone cel. This stamp indicates the initials of the person that carried out the quality control. When we look at our fake microphone the stamp is not present. On top of that the foam on top of the cel is much thinner, also resulting in higher sensibility for wind and pop noises.

We hope these differences give you reason enough to watch out for fake microphones. It should be a pity to give your good money to these counterfeits. But how can you know wether the microphone you are going to buy is real ?

Distinguish real from fake...

Most of the time these microphones are sold via the internet. This of course hampers the possibility to check the product immediately. But if the deal sounds too good to be true, it probably is too good to be true.

Be cautious when buying from on-line dealers and/or on-line auction sites like eBay, tweedehands.be, Yez.be,... especially when :
- prices offered are well below the market average. Don’t get taken by “Certificates of Originality” or guarantees that are offered. They too are often as fake as the counterfeits.
- you are shopping for SM or Beta models.
- products are shipped from Asia particularly if stated that products were purchased from a Shure factory.

To reduce the risk of buying a counterfeit product, buy from an authorised Shure dealer whether on-line or in their shop. We can advise you of the dealers in your vicinity. Shure is committed to protecting you by protecting their brand and intellectual property They will use the law against any sales of counterfeit product, be it via resellers or internet platforms. Shure is not only watching, but actively working to rid the marketplace of any substandard product to protect the Shure reputation which our customers rely on. Full information on Shure’s activities against counterfeiting can be found here.
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Message par eb4 » 6 oct. 2007, 17:25

ya le même probléme avec un peu toute la gamme de shure nottament les Sm57 et 58.

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Message par fabfive » 7 oct. 2007, 19:09

merci globe!
belle initiative!
(ceci dit je n avais jamais vu de faux shure, mais quelles differences flagrantes! c est rassurant, je les pensais bien mieux contrefaits et bien plus dur a differencier. la membrane c est carrement trop flagrand!)

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Message par glaudiator » 8 oct. 2007, 12:00

Une autre différence est que la membrane est tenue par un circlip sur les vrais Shure et juste emboitée et/ou collée sur les faux.

Un pote à aussi vu en Chine des faux Shure HF !!
Espèce d'amateur... bah oui!

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Message par Fish » 8 oct. 2007, 13:22

Le problème, comme le dit Shure, c'est quand on achète sur eBay. Impossible de distinguer la différence sur une photo, et surtout rien n'empèche un vendeur frauduleux de mettre une photo de vrai Shure. J'ai déjà acheté des micros sur eBay (et fait de très bonnes affaires), mais je n'achète jamais les Shure SM/Beta ni les Sennheiser E835/E845. Ni en "neuf à 1 euros vendus de Chine", ni aux particuliers. Car il se peut trés bien que ce particulier se soit fait avoir et revende un faux. Je suis toujours étonné de voir les SM58 partir à 70-80 euros alors qu'il vaut 105 euros en neuf.

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Message par ziggy » 17 févr. 2012, 9:50

je remonte le topic en haut car c'est de plus en plus actuel !!

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Message par luciolis » 17 févr. 2012, 22:20

J'ai regardé mes B58 en stock, et je vois que certains modèles ont des logos différents au niveau de la taille et la police. La mousse est également grise et noire. Mais la résistance est bien la même (25 ohms) et le son théoriquement aussi. Je pense que ce sont des vrais, je les ai achetés de source normalement sûre.
Je suis toujours étonné de voir les SM58 partir à 70-80 euros alors qu'il vaut 105 euros en neuf.
C'est cher en effet. Et si on a des rabais pro, et en déduisant la TVA, on peut les toucher dans les 70-80 euros neufs avant la garantie chez l'importateur.

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